Why We Love Recliners

Recliners can pull a room together and shouldn’t be overlooked. Don’t sacrifice comfort for style or vice versa with so many types of recliners out there. For high quality, comfortable recliners, England Furniture has a tasteful collection to choose from. Every product is made in America, so you know each piece is crafted with care.

A standout recliner is the Helen Recliner 1K031P. It’s both classic and casual, with tapered wooden legs and a sophisticated brass nail trim.

Helen Recliner England Furniture

England Furniture Company has a variety of recliners that can come in sectionals, or loveseat with a center console.

Dimensions:
Width 34″
Depth 39″
Height 42″
Seat Width 23″
Seat Depth 21″
Seat Height 22″

Making Furniture and Creating American Jobs

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England Furniture was founded in 1964 with a mission to create manufacturing jobs where they were needed most, in America. Today, all our items are manufactured right in the foothills of East Tennessee. We’ve grown since then, with over 1,000 people as part of our team.

After a fire on May 23rd of 2017 that destroyed our corporate offices in New Tazewell, Tennessee, we’ve had to work harder than ever before to make sure orders still get out on time.

Still, we remain competitive with our high-quality products and a rapid delivery system. We’re proud to offer 400 fabrics and leathers for the best customer experience. Take a look at some of the photos from our factory that we post on #PlantTourTuesdays.

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We have over 400 textiles to choose from.

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We guarantee our products to deliver in 3 weeks or less.

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Tennessee craftsmen and women work hard for your perfect piece.

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Proudly built in New Tazewell, Tennessee, USA.

Summer Design Tips to Brighten Up Your Home

England Furniture Bright Living Room Summer Tips

Now that you’ve done your spring cleaning and are ready to enjoy the summertime, here are some tips to brighten up your home and splash into a warmer season. While a complete England Furniture overhaul isn’t for everyone, these tips are for redecorating budgets both big and small.England Furniture Bright Living Room Summer Tips

Light curtains
Let sunlight dance around your home while maintaining privacy. Opt away from the blinds and heavy window treatments this season. Use a sheer curtain fabric in a light color and more solid colors on the sides to frame the window.

Store away the heavy blankets
In the summer it can be comfortable to wrap yourself in a lighter blanket. The look of heavy throw blankets on couches in the living room can give off the wrong feel, so try out a lighter blanket. There are many ottomans from the England Furniture Company that you can use to save those heavier blankets for the fall!

Add some flowers
Fresh cut flowers add life to any room! If you’re prone to allergies, there are ways to make faux flowers look alive. Adding a bit of water to the bottom of a vase can take ordinary fake flowers up a notch. Adding just a few real flowers can tie the look together to make it more believable. Flower arrangements almost always have some greenery in them, so don’t be afraid to add in a few small accents of real green leaves.

Bright pillows
Accent pillows are your couch’s favorite accessory. These pops of color can pick up on a hue in your new bright drapes or threads in your new blanket. This fun accent is an easy way to bring life to any color couch.

Beachy scented candles
Seasonal candles add another dimension of summer to a living space. While the rest of the room can look visibly bright, candles add an extra summery scent.

What’s not to love about sleeper sofas?

England Furniture Jeremie Queen Sleeper with Nails

They’re the living room transformer, giving you versatility and a chic look all in one. England Furniture offers a large variety of styles for your new favorite piece of furniture. It’s time to get rid of that futon and see all that sleeper sofas can add to your home!
England Furniture Jeremie Queen Sleeper with Nails
3 reasons to get a sleeper sofa
1. Maximize your space
When living in a smaller, condensed space, it’s important to take advantage of all your square footage. Sleeper sofas enable you to have a multifunctional space for whatever life throws at you. Check out the Philip Full Sleeper or the Seabury Twin Sleeper if a queen-sized mattress doesn’t suit your room.

2. Finally invite guests over
Offer your couch for your guests with pride! A beautiful sleeper sofa isn’t your college friend’s futon. With this piece, you’ll be able to offer a hospitable space without embarrassment. The impressive Leah Queen Sleeper is a functional statement piece.

3. Refresh your space with functionality
A new piece of furniture in your living room can mean you’re reinventing an area of your home or just refreshing it. Opt for a piece that’ll be both beautiful and functional. The Walters Queen Sleeper has a traditional feel that will breathe new life into your living room.

The England Furniture Reviews are in! It’s time to invest in a piece that’ll be a staple for close friends and family years to come.

Leather We Love

With so many design options at the England Furniture Company, we wanted to showcase some of our luxurious leather pieces. Here are a few standouts:
1. Leight Sectional 7130AL-Sect
England Furniture Leather Sectional
This England Furniture sectional features a brass nail head trim and turned wood legs. It comes in over 40 colors to suit your vision.

Dimensions:
Width 119″
Depth 119″
Height 38″

2. Dorchester Abbey Lucy Chair 2R04AL
England Furniture Dorchester Abbey Lucy Chair
England Furniture offers a wide variety of chairs including this showstopper. Not your ordinary chair, it’s trimmed with antique bronze nails with deep tufts. This style can also be found in loveseat, sofa, and ottoman pieces.

Dimensions:
Width 57″
Depth 41″
Height 33″
Seat Width 31″
Seat Depth 23″
Seat Height 30″

3. Hollie Storage Ottoman 2F081LH
England Furniture Hollie Storage Ottoman
This England Furniture ottoman comes to you with a truly one of a kind look. It’s both functional and beautiful, and easy to move around the room. This style has a hair-on-hide lid with a leather base.
Dimensions:
Width 21″
Depth 20″
Height 21″
4. Lynette Sofa 6205AL
England Furniture Lynette Sofa
The England Furniture Lynette collection will make a big statement in your home. The expressive color will give your living room an edge that’ll make your friends and family turquoise with envy.
Dimensions:
Width 79″
Depth 35″
Height 36″
Seat Width 68″
Seat Depth 22″
Seat Height 20″

If leather doesn’t suit your taste, these pieces each come in a variety of fabrics to fit perfectly into your living room.

England Furniture Reviews Some Furniture Arrangement Tips

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England Furniture Arrangement

When it comes to arranging furniture there are many ways one can precede. That does not mean, however, that one can’t make some mistakes. While experts agree that the surest way to create a flawless room is through trial and error, there are a few rules you should keep in mind. England Furniture Reviews how to arrange furniture:

1. Hang Paintings or Mirrors in Relation to the Rest of the Furniture
Paintings or mirrors should ground everything around it. Don’t hang them too high. Typically place them around 24 to 36 inches above a piece of furniture, although that rule vary a bit depending on the height of the artwork or mirror itself.

2. Light Your Room Entirely
Lighting is one of the most essential elements in any space. Spread your light sources around a space and make sure every part of the room gets lit. If, for example, you have a lamp next to your bed, place two more strategically in the room to create a triangle of light.

3. The Coffee Table Should Be Big
Large coffee table, as with rugs, can help to expand and connect a room and an big coffee table contributes more to a room in terms of both aesthetics and function and aesthetics. The coffee table should be placed around 12 to 24 inches away from your sofa.

4. Go Big and Under with Area Rugs
Small rugs make a small room even smaller and they make a large room look disconnected. Your rugs look better when they’re bigger and all the furniture is on them. Place your rug underneath at least the first set of legs of your bed – or under your couch and chairs – to create a cohesive look.

5. The Higher the Curtains, the Better
Go high with your curtains! In many cases it’s best to hang them from the ceilings to the floors. This will make your ceilings appear a lot higher and it expands the room.” Curtains that are too small come off like an afterthought.

Stain Resistant Furniture For Your Lifestyle

England Furniture Stain Resistant Fabrics with Livesmart Technology
England Furniture Stain Resistant Fabrics with Livesmart Technology

Ever watch a movie or TV show and fall in love with the furniture? You know, beautiful stark white down couches with a white shag throw rug and glass top coffee table? It can look picture perfect, but if you duplicate the style in a house full of kids and Rover the family pooch, that look might last about thirty seconds. Maybe.

We all want to live in spaces that make us happy and we can more readily do that when we are realistic about our lifestyles and what comes with it. People who enjoy entertaining will have a hard time with furniture that can’t be lived in because spills and accidents happen in life. If you have kids or children visit often, creating an atmosphere that is comfortable for them will end up making your life easier, especially if they wander a little too close to your collection of first editions while sucking on a juice box.

The colors and accessories we choose for our rooms should complement our personalities and accent the things we love. Sometimes it’s safe to have the main furniture be a neutral color and then use pillows and blankets as colorful accents. If you love leather or dark furniture, then you can brighten the room with lighter shades of paint and bright lighting. No matter what you decide, look at your lifestyle and try to match it to your home décor.

We can still fawn over that white furniture, but parents might want to hold off until the kids are a little bit older.

Did you know that England Furniture offers stain-resistant fabrics?

Whether it’s dirty little hands, muddy paws, or a spilled glass of wine, life’s everyday messes happen. LiveSmart fabrics resist the stains made by these everyday accidents. With their moisture repellency and stain resistance, LiveSmart fabrics keep your furniture looking and feeling as beautiful as the day you bought it.

LiveSmart is:

  • Moisture repellent
  • Stain resistant
  • Designed for heavy duty wear
  • Barrier protection to keep your fabric clean

Revolution Performance Fabrics® by STI and Brentwood Textiles are true performance fabrics.  Woven with Olefin yarn, the fabrics are virtually unstainable, easy to clean, and extremely durable; yet beautiful and soft while also resistant to fading from the sun. Revolution Performance Fabrics® are made with upcycled fibers and have no chemical treatments making them easy on the environment.

For the Love of Trunks

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There are nearly endless uses for old leather traveling trunks! They are nostalgic, functional and oh so classy.

If you don’t have an older family member who might very well have one, check out some garage sales, thrift shops, or antique shops. They may not come in perfect condition, but a little TLC will take care of that.

  1. Find a trunk that fits the space you have.
  2. Don’t worry about broken handles, they are easy to replace and sometimes look fine as they are. Remember you’re not traveling with them, just showing them off.
  3. Reject any that have signs of mold. It may not be worth the trouble.
  4. It may take a few tries to find your gem, but shopping for one is half the fun!
  5. Once you find one you love, wipe it down inside and outside with a damp rag.
  6. If you want to deepen the color, you can use furniture polish or stain.
  7. It’s likely to be a bit musty so place a small bowl of bleach on top of a towel on the bottom of the trunk and then close it and let it sit overnight. Make sure no one knocks into it – you don’t want to spill the bleach.
  8. In the morning, dispose of the bowl of bleach and let it air out for the rest of the day.
  9. If the inside needs a new liner, peel off the old and pick up a cool patterned liner that fits your style.
  10. Once it’s clean and ready you can use the trunk as a: coffee table, storage for blankets, pillows, toys, books, firewood… oh, the possibilities are endless!

Lighting

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Lighting is everything! It can make nearly any space look completely different with just a few adjustments.

  • Variety – layer your lighting with table lamps, tall floor lamps as well as overhead lighting for a balanced effect.
  • Highlight your favorite item like a spotlight on special furniture or artwork.
  • Add a tall lamp over a corner reading
  • Try a chandelier or cool lighting fixture above a dining room table to create the right ambiance for your setting.
  • Bedside table lamps give a bedroom a warm inviting tone and are perfect for late night reading.
  • Some rooms can be really tricky to light, like bathrooms, but adding a dimmer switch is a simple and inexpensive way to change the mood with a simple slide of the switch.
  • Candles have always been a simple, yet beautiful way to set a mood.
  • There are battery-operated string lights available that allow you to light corners, bookshelves and more with a very cool effect and no outlet needed. They can give something like a simple vase a whole new look.
  • Twinkle lights for the holidays make any room feel festive and create an inviting effect.
  • A bulb could be the culprit of harsh lighting, so consider a simple change of wattage or bulb type to get that light just right.

Lighting can be fun!  Experiment with what you have before you buy something new.

 

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Five Autumn Interior Design Tips

England Furniture Autumn Design Tips
Autumn interior design conjures images of wooden twigs, colorful leaves, pumpkins and gourds, and endless hues of yellows, browns, greens, oranges and reds. All these natural colors and elements can create a warm autumn interior.  While autumn is a wonderful time to consider some new furniture offerings for your home, England Furniture knows you don’t need to buy all new furniture to celebrate the autumnal season.   Consider these autumn interior design tips from the England Furniture Company.

England Furniture Autumn Inspired Vera Chair
The England Furniture Vera Chair in Roman Cinnamon with pillows in our Adileh Russet fabric

 

Welcome Autumn!

Let everyone know that you welcome the season of Fall with a beautiful, autumn-inspired wreath on your front door.  Simple grapevine wreaths are a simple way to go.  If you desire something more ornate, add leaves, pine cones, corn husks, or berries on your wreath.  Use white pumpkins if you want to add a touch of elegance.

 

Use your Fireplace

Simply using your fireplace during autumn is a wonderful way to add warmth to your room, figuratively and literally! Help to bring in that autumnal feel by adding leaves, pine cones, pumpkins, gourds, or fall-inspired colored candles on your fireplace mantle.  Before lighting your first fire, be sure the chimney has been cleaned and inspected.  Safety first!

 

Blankets Galore

Another great way to add some warmth to your room is to add throw blankets into the area.  Place fall colored throw blankets on couches, sofas, loveseats, and chairs.  Compliment your blankets with throw pillows to create a cozy, autumn environment.

 

Off to the Woods

Wood isn’t only good for a fire, it’s decorative!  Bring in wooden elements to give your room a true, organic, natural feel.  Remove any leaves or small twigs and brush-off the wood to make sure you’re not bringing in any unwanted guests (bugs or spiders…yikes!)

 

Pumpkins, Gourds, and Mums…Oh My!

It wouldn’t be autumn without the use of pumpkins, gourds, and mums.   There are countless DIY crafts available (we love votive candles in small carved out pumpkins and mums planted inside large pumpkins on the front porch).  If you don’t have much time to be creative, simply pick up some of these items and strategically place them on your front porch, the fireplace mantel, your coffee table, and your dining room table.  Add some vines, pine cones, and/or leaves to bring all the elements together.

 

 

Creating a Kid-Friendly Living Room

Having children in your home is true blessing, but it can also be a challenge.  While your interior design choices used to be about aesthetics, when kids are involved, you also need to think about practicality and safety. Kids move around fast and can cause a room to quickly feel cluttered (toys, crafts, more toys, etc!).  Consider these tips from England Furniture on how you can start to create a kid-friendly living room.

 

Avoid Sharp Edges!

Almost every parent or guardian has had the experience of watching their toddler fall, just nearly missing the corner of that coffee table, end table or TV stand. These items are typically the perfect height for your children to bang their head on so, to create a safer environment, purchase tables with rounded edges.  England Furniture has a wide range of England Furniture tables that you can choose from.

England Furniture Mercantile Table
England Furniture Mercantile Table H050

 

 

Kid-Friendly Sofas and Couches

Leather couches and sunbrella fabrics are fantastic options when creating a kid-friendly living room.  Leather is great because it wipes clean, it is a tough material, and often looks best once broken in. Darker colored fabrics, as a rule, also tend to wear better than lighter fabrics.  Many professional interior designers also recommend that parents invest in their upholstered furniture by purchasing stain-resistant fabrics.  England Furniture has a wide range of fabrics and leathers to choose from when purchasing living room furniture.

England Furniture Lynette Sectional
England Furniture Lynette Sofa in Salvador Café leather and with throw pillows in our Warbler Moccasin fabric

 

 

The Perfect Choices for Walls

When considering your wall paint, choose a washable paint sheen.  A paint color in semi-gloss, stain, or eggshell, can be easily cleaned up with some mild soap and a damp rag. If you prefer a matte finish, flat paints have the benefit of touch-up painting, and without the presence of brush marks.

 

Don’t Forget the Floors

Floors that are easy to clean can be your best friend in a busy kid-filled household! Dirt, spills, and crumbs are going to happen!  Think wood, laminate, tiles, or vinyl.  If you prefer carpet, consider laying down carpet tiles so you can easily replace as needed.

 

Storage, Storage, and Some More Storage

You can’t have enough places for storage when creating kid-friendly living room so make sure you purchase entertainment centers, bookcases, and tables that provide some places to store all those toys, games, and craft items.  Then think outside of the box by purchasing one of our England Furniture ottomans that open up for more storage.

England Furniture Benwood Cocktail Ottoman
England Furniture Benwood Cocktail Ottoman

 

The Artisan Cabrio 2883 Brown Rug from England Furniture

 

England Furniture Artisan Cabrio 2883 Brown rug

The England Furniture Artisan Cabrio 2883 Brown Rug is a stunning masterpiece that will bring an air of sophistication into your favorite room. Its colorful, floral designs sparkle against a dark brown background and make you feel like your surrounded by nature.

DIMENSIONS
Length 8′
Width 5′

CONSTRUCTION AND ERGONOMICS
Construction Hand Tufted

OTHER DETAILS
Brand England
Category Floor Coverings
Collection Artisan
Description Artisan-Cabrio-2883-Brown
SKU Artisan-Cabrio-2883-Brown
Type Rugs

England Furniture Company Pico Ivory

England Furniture Pico Ivory rug

This stunning England Furniture carpet is inspired by today’s post-modern art.  Award-winning designers from HRI have infused all the Englan Furniture Pico carpets with hip, abstract motifs; and bright, vibrant, or contrasting colors.  This ivory rug blends beautifully with neutral greys and blacks. This carpet was hand-tufted in India with finely spun wool.

DIMENSIONS
Length 8′
Width 5′

CONSTRUCTION & ERGONOMICS
Construction Hand Tufted

OTHER DETAILS
Brand England
Category Floor Coverings
Collection Pico
Description Pico TC-709 Ivory – Grey 5 x 8 Rectangle
SKU Pico TC-709 Ivory – Grey
Type Rugs

Three Good Reasons to Buy a Sectional

At the England Furniture Company, we know that not everyone instantly loves a sectional.  Many of our customers prefer our England Furniture sofas and England Furniture loveseats, and they prefer them over England Furniture sectionals for a variety of reasons.  Some people feel sectionals are too big, others are concerned about costs, and still others find them “too casual.”  There are, however, at least three good reasons why you may want to consider a sectional sofa for your living room or family room.

England Furniture Thomas Sectional
England Furniture Thomas Sectional (in our Cornell Platinum fabric with throw pillows using Luna Expresso and Alton Midnight fabrics)

 

They’re Space Savers!

Despite their large size, many sectionals can actually help you to obtain extra space in your room.  Many sectionals can be arranged to fit perfectly in those tight corners.  A sectional purchase also means you typically don’t need to purchase additional seating. Having one sectional in your living room will help you to create a simple and streamlined design.

 

They’re Great for Naps and Bedtime!

While many of our England Furniture sofas and England Furniture loveseats are a great place to take a nap, England Furniture sectionals are particularly worthy for naps and overnight guests.  They made for relaxing your entire body, you can often have more than one person spread out during movie night, and they’re a perfect place for your overnight guests.

 

Sectionals are Versatile!

Perhaps the reason for their initial creation, sectionals tend to be extremely versatile pieces of furniture.  Sectionals can be left-facing, right-facing or both. Some sectionals include convertible sofas or have reclining capabilities.  Other sectionals may include built-in tables or even drink holders.  All sectionals have the ability to be versatile. If you ever get sick the arrangement in your family room or living room, – or you move – you can easily break apart the pieces of many sectionals and use them in a different layout – or use the pieces separately.

England Furniture Reviews Artisan Pelopan Area Rug

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The England Furniture Reviews the Artisan Pelopan 66 Beige rug. It has a modern feel and soothing beige and brown colors.  Its neutral pallet would look perfect in almost any room!

 

DIMENSIONS

Length 8′

Width 5′

 

CONSTRUCTION & ERGONOMICS

Construction Hand Tufted

 

OTHER DETAILS

Brand: England Furniture

Category: Floor Coverings

Collection: Artisan

Description: Artisan Pelopan 66 Beige 5′ x 8′ Rectangle

SKU: Artisan Pelopan 66 Beige

Type: Rugs

England Furniture Reviews Artisan Lovebirds Area Rug

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Love is in the air!  England Furniture reviews the Artisan Lovebirds area rug. It’ll be sure to attract attention to anyone who visits your home.  It has pleasing geometric shapes that contain shades of brown, orange, and yellow.

 

DIMENSIONS

Length 8′

Width 5′

 

CONSTRUCTION & ERGONOMICS

Construction Hand Tufted

 

OTHER DETAILS

Brand: England Furniture

Category: Floor Coverings

Collection: Artisan

Description: Artisan Lovebirds 5′ x 8′ Rectangle

SKU: Artisan Lovebirds

Type: Rugs

England Furniture Reviews Artisan Moonglow Area Rug

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England Furniture reviews the Artisan Moonglow 2701 Cream rug. This rug would be a wonderful addition in many homes.  Its cream background blends perfectly with the orange and brown floral print.

DIMENSIONS

Length 8′

Width 5′

 

CONSTRUCTION & ERGONOMICS

Construction Hand Tufted

 

OTHER DETAILS

Brand: England Furniture

Category: Floor Coverings

Collection: Artisan

Description: Artisan Moonglow 2701 Cream 5′ x 8′ Rectangle

SKU: Artisan Moonglow 2701 Cream

Type: Rugs

England Furniture Area Rugs!

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When you think of England Furniture your mind likely conjures images of comfortable sectionals, beautiful sofas, and durable chairs; but did you know England Furniture also has a fine selection of area rugs?

We teamed up with HRI to create an exclusive collection of area rugs just for YOU!  These rugs are hand crafted rugs in 100% wool and they coordinate with some of our top selling accent fabrics.

Stay tuned for various posts about England Furniture area rugs!

 

England Furniture Fulfills Expectation at International Furniture Market

The recently concluded International Furniture Market held in High Point, NC, fulfilled our expectations of optimistic opportunity! England Furniture went armed with two merchandising programs to offer our dealers realistic, affordable avenues for profitable sales.

The first is MetroMix. This is a collection of contemporary styles with a retro feel in size and design. Our theme at market was “The Next Generation” and this assortment of groups clearly fits with the needs and desires of a segment of our population that is now overtaking baby boomers in number. Clean lines, skirtless, plenty of button detail, all atop a simplistic leg treatment is the future of style in metro areas. Did I say affordable?

England Furniture Metro Mix 5A00
England Furniture Metro Mix 5A00

 

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England Furniture Metro Mix 5E00


The second collection is EZ Motion. While not an entirely new concept, it is now being offered throughout our dealer base. It contains some styles in the former program and several styles new to the England Furniture line-up. EZ Motion will include combinations of stand-alone and sectional pieces to bring comfort to the living areas of many first time motion consumers.

England Furniture EZ Motion EZ170
England Furniture EZ Motion EZ170

 

England Furniture EZ Motion EZ4W00
England Furniture EZ Motion EZ4W00

Based on orders written at market, our 5 top selling stationary groups were the 4X00 (new), 2Y00N (Oct. market intro), 4630 (Special), 4T00 sectional (new) and 5K00 (new). Three of our top 5 were new offerings. 78% of motion product ordered at market was EZ Motion with the most popular being the EZ170, followed closely by the EZ160. Leather sales were headed up by the 2010L in both a double reclining sofa group and a sectional treatment. The 300 sleepers were tops in their category with an old favorite, the 1304D chair, leading the accents.

The top five fabrics overall were Grande Linen, Wagga Wagga Otter, Paradigm Silt, Sawyer Cocoa and Jive Granite. The top five leathers were Galveston Vintage, Salvador Black Oak, Galveston Firebrand, Ryder Cognac and Salvador Asphalt.

Thank you to all who visited our Plaza Suites showroom and thanks for your continued support of England Furniture products. We take our commitment to our customers seriously. We honor that commitment by consistently introducing product relevant to the current marketplace. See you in High Point next October, if not before in Vegas!